Please think before you answer this question.
1. Jesus 1st states he will send you a comfortor who will teach you new things and guide you ... and that you should follow him.
2. Jesus also said that he the comfortor won't come until he
goes .... so that crosses out the Holy Spirit being the comfortor
because he ';the holy spirit was already there with Jesus';
3. Why would Jesus teach you how to spot a false prophet
if he was gone to be the last prophet that you would follow
he would just tell you all other prophets after me are false.
4. Why is it so hard to accept the truth that the Prophet line of Abraham completed with the last Prophet Muhammad (SAW).Why did Jesus Teach about How to spot a False Prophet?
1) He also tells the Holy Spirit will indwell you.
2)The Holy Spirit did not indwell us until after Christ was gone also the Holy Spirit is to be with us forever.
3) I never said Jesus was the last prophet but all prophets will agree and will agree wiht the word of God according to God.
Jesus warned that those who did not believe him to be the Son of God was a false prophet and the sprit of antiChrist.
4)Because all prophets are to be in agreement and of course in agreement with the word of God,
We are instructed from the time of Moses to test a prophet and a spirit according to the words of the prophets and the known word of God.
Read the true word of God and know for yourself Muhammad could not have been a prophet of God nor his god the righteous God of Abraham.
Unless you believe Muhammad is Allah he can not possibly be the Holy Spirit which is the comforter who is with us forever.
Muhamamd failed to follow the word of God even as far as testing the spirit he did not know.
Had Muhammad followed the word of god and tested this spirit he ould have know this spirit disagreed with the word of God and would have been rejected.
10:94 of your Qu'ran insructs Muhamamd to test his revelationa gainst the previous revelation to see that they are the same..
2:41 tells the Jews this that I reveal confirms that which you have....
If this is true then the Qu'ran is in agreement with the Bible.
It is not.
Jesus' teachings were in agreement with all of the prophets teaching against those who would teach a different gospel.
The Qu'ran teaches a message that was not taught before Muhamamad and is contrary ot the teachings of all the previous prophets of God.
Jesus taught that we must compre the teachings of the prophets to know his teachings.
Jesus refered to the written words of Moses and to those who did nto believe his words.
I believe these words of Christ reflect on teh teachings of Islam.
John 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
43 I am come in my Father鈥檚 name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Who calles the Torah (words of Moses) corrupt?
What id Jesus say of these?
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?Why did Jesus Teach about How to spot a False Prophet?
';Because Jesus CHRIST, himself was spoken of as a false
prophet, one of the ancient prophets, or having a demon.';
';Only one person ever said to him, 'You are the CHRIST'!';
';And I do mean, ONLY ONE PERSON, EVER.';
';That, 'If you are really the CHRIST?', doesn't count to me.';
If you look in your computer type in your search engine,
messengers of god you will find that there has been to more messengers of god after Muhammad ,One a descendant of Mohamed.The other a descendant of Abraham through Abrahams third wife
You're mistaken about #2.
#4: because there are a lot more holes in the Islamic teachings than in Christianity
He was trying to stop people from following him. He hates popularity i guess.
Maybe his Father taught him what would happen in the future %26amp; he was trying to warn us.
He was Admitting guilt?
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god hates us all
great question... God bless you :)
Because A good Shepard ( Jesus) does not want a flase Shepard (Satin) stealing his sheep ( followers of Him;Jesus)
We will know them by there fruits. a bad tree dose not produce good fruits. or a good tree produce bad fruits.
this is found in in the book of Matthew chapter 7 verse 15 to verse 23 . Please pray with an open heart to Jesus then read it for your self. there is so much infomation.Remember Jesus wants to keep all people safe. Hell was not intended for people;but for Satin and his Angles. So he wants to see us to heaven. So he can have the Farther God see us as follower of Him( Jesus) not the sinners that we all are.
Oh and if you say you are not a sinner well ok then you do not need Jesus. you will do ok in front of God by your self.
#1%26amp;2. That, in fact is holy spirit. His disciples were able to accomplish many things so long as Jesus was on earth. In order for them to continue their work, they would need that holy spirit. It operated with them in full when Jesus was no longer there which allowed the to fully accomplish their ministry and remain faithful even in the faith of death. Before, they had spirit but they also had Jesus in their midst. Kind of like being able to do a top job without the boss being there.
John chapters 16 %26amp;17 gives you an indication of why they would need the fully active holy spirit after Jesus was gone.
3. Note that Jesus said ';false prophets';. That indicated that there would no longer be prophets. Many during that time and today believe that Jesus was not the messiah but a prophet. So that was a warning that there would be ones that would pop up stating that they were a prophet with the intention of misleading people. There are some that really believe they are prophets but now that we have the complete bible, mankind doesn't need a prophet to tell them what's going to happen in the future, to mediate between God and man or instruct us in how to serve God (1 Corinthians 13:8-10)
4. I cannot speak on this item simply because there have been many studies done on Muhammad's prophecies and have found them to be inaccurate. The prophecies involving Abraham all point to Jesus Christ and God's holy nation, a fullfillment that went beyond the nation of Israel and confirms things that have occured in our time.
He installed spiritual leaders to guide and direct us to do the right thing from the apostle Paul to Timothy.
Then he said there would be a great falling away so we had to know that bible to be able to discern who was true and who was false.
There will always be ministerial servants and deacons and elders and priests. But we were not to worship a man.
1Timothy 3:2 said he would be a husband of one wife.
1 timothy 4:2 to stay away from those forbidding men to marry. That excludes polygamist religions, and religions that spiritual leaders do not marry.
You said he established the rules, those are the rules.
Ones who desired to be worshipped were the very ones we were warned to stay away from.
Also, from ones who were violent, and wanting to start wars.
Jesus was not a prophet, he was the first creation of the father and as such was a co-ruler in heaven with the father.
He is to be king, messiah, ransomer and redeemer and apart from Jesus there is no savior.
(Colossians 1:15-20) 15聽He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16聽because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17聽Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist, 18聽and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things; 19聽because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him, 20聽and through him to reconcile again to himself all [other] things by making peace through the blood [he shed] on the torture stake, no matter whether they are the things upon the earth or the things in the heavens.
(Revelation 3:14) 14聽鈥淎nd to the angel of the congregation in La路o路di路ce麓a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,
(Acts 7:55) 55聽But he, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God鈥檚 glory and of Jesus standing at God鈥檚 right hand,
Friday, February 12, 2010
Did H.A. Ironside teach ';easy believism'; in his book ';Holiness: The False and The True'; ?
';Easy believism'; is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I don't know why people feel the need to attack it that way.
Salvation is by only believing in Jesus alone to save. If that's not ';good enough'; to save, then everybody is going to hell, no matter what.formal hair
Salvation is by only believing in Jesus alone to save. If that's not ';good enough'; to save, then everybody is going to hell, no matter what.
Mormons... did Joseph Smith jr. truly teach that transmigrations of the soul is false doctrine?
Do you know what this means? did he teach the words of God or was it his Presumption to teach this doctrine.? its not in the D%26amp;C but it is in his collected works... what say anyone who is true?Mormons... did Joseph Smith jr. truly teach that transmigrations of the soul is false doctrine?
He was a very strange man and devious as all hell.
Read up on the Mountain Meadows Massacre it is a bit of Mormon history that they try to supress.http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects…Mormons... did Joseph Smith jr. truly teach that transmigrations of the soul is false doctrine?
Is humanity ready to hear the truth ?
No matter what is the questions or the answers and no matter what we think we are or what we thinks about who we are ,meaning either prisoner or the warden , rich or poor, you eat meat or beans you love or you hate you except or reject ,leftist or rightist , black or white ,religious or atheist, and all other species living with us on planet earth and beyond which we all share a common bond that's we are really one ,but there is a down side to our existence a hidden secret which kept from us and they continue to suppress the truth and to protect their system of deception from crumbling , and humanity will be free ,but are you really wants to know ,are you ready , I hope so ,and I hope SO called man in authority read it and TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE GAME IS AGAINST ALL OF US , HERE COMES THE TRUTH MY FRIENDS THAT WE ALL LIVING ON THIS PLANET AS A GUINEA PIGS , LIKE REALLY ANIMAL FARM FOR EXPERIMENTS. PURE AND SIMPLE LABORATORY
The only thing I've heard about this was on my mission. I was talking with another missionary and he mentioned that Joseph Smith had been heard wondering out loud ';I wonder what I did in my previous lives.'; The missionary pointed out that Joseph said lives. I don't know the source of that quote or anything, so I've never really accepted it.
“I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me. . . . When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!” ( Joseph Smith—History 1:16–17).
read for your self here ---%26gt; http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basi…
I believe Joseph Smith was a prophet, but that doesn't mean I have to believe everything he thought or said was inspired or that his choice of breakfast or shirt color was divine.
If you're talking about reincarnation in the eastern sense, what Mormons believe is quite different.
I am not familiar with any writings about this topic. The fact that it is not in the D%26amp;C is the most relevant point. Joseph considered a lot of things that he could have mentioned in passing. We all engage in idle speculation about topics like Heavenly Mother. Since not even the prophets have been given much information on this, there is no complete doctrine. Any revealed doctrine was usually phrased as being spoken by the Lord.
Could you reference this -- which collected work where.
As I understand ';transmigrations of the soul'; it means reincarnation.
We believe in a literal Resurrection where we will all be resurrected and restored to our bodies (and will then live forever and never die again).
But reincarnation where one is literally born again and again in different forms and bodies -- we believe to be false.
No offense to those who believe it is true.
D
Actually, he's dead on with his translations ---- the Hebrew word used in the OT that is translated to ';soul'; is just another word for a living creature.
There no eternal everliving afterlife vessel associated with it.
The current Judeo/Christian concept of a soul has more in common with Greek culture.
He was a very strange man and devious as all hell.
Read up on the Mountain Meadows Massacre it is a bit of Mormon history that they try to supress.http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects…Mormons... did Joseph Smith jr. truly teach that transmigrations of the soul is false doctrine?
Is humanity ready to hear the truth ?
No matter what is the questions or the answers and no matter what we think we are or what we thinks about who we are ,meaning either prisoner or the warden , rich or poor, you eat meat or beans you love or you hate you except or reject ,leftist or rightist , black or white ,religious or atheist, and all other species living with us on planet earth and beyond which we all share a common bond that's we are really one ,but there is a down side to our existence a hidden secret which kept from us and they continue to suppress the truth and to protect their system of deception from crumbling , and humanity will be free ,but are you really wants to know ,are you ready , I hope so ,and I hope SO called man in authority read it and TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE GAME IS AGAINST ALL OF US , HERE COMES THE TRUTH MY FRIENDS THAT WE ALL LIVING ON THIS PLANET AS A GUINEA PIGS , LIKE REALLY ANIMAL FARM FOR EXPERIMENTS. PURE AND SIMPLE LABORATORY
The only thing I've heard about this was on my mission. I was talking with another missionary and he mentioned that Joseph Smith had been heard wondering out loud ';I wonder what I did in my previous lives.'; The missionary pointed out that Joseph said lives. I don't know the source of that quote or anything, so I've never really accepted it.
“I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me. . . . When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!” ( Joseph Smith—History 1:16–17).
read for your self here ---%26gt; http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basi…
I believe Joseph Smith was a prophet, but that doesn't mean I have to believe everything he thought or said was inspired or that his choice of breakfast or shirt color was divine.
If you're talking about reincarnation in the eastern sense, what Mormons believe is quite different.
I am not familiar with any writings about this topic. The fact that it is not in the D%26amp;C is the most relevant point. Joseph considered a lot of things that he could have mentioned in passing. We all engage in idle speculation about topics like Heavenly Mother. Since not even the prophets have been given much information on this, there is no complete doctrine. Any revealed doctrine was usually phrased as being spoken by the Lord.
Could you reference this -- which collected work where.
As I understand ';transmigrations of the soul'; it means reincarnation.
We believe in a literal Resurrection where we will all be resurrected and restored to our bodies (and will then live forever and never die again).
But reincarnation where one is literally born again and again in different forms and bodies -- we believe to be false.
No offense to those who believe it is true.
D
Actually, he's dead on with his translations ---- the Hebrew word used in the OT that is translated to ';soul'; is just another word for a living creature.
There no eternal everliving afterlife vessel associated with it.
The current Judeo/Christian concept of a soul has more in common with Greek culture.
If a False Prophet can work miracles, Preach, Teach and appear even as if he was righteous?
How do you draw the line between and true Prophet, Preacher, Teacher and a false ?
2Co 11:14 -
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be (( TRANSFORMED AS THE MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ))
2Pe 2:1 -
But there were false prophets also among the people, (( EVEN AS THERE SHALL BE FALSE TEACHERS AMONG YOU ))
Re 13:14 -
( ( AND DECEIVETH THEM THAT DWELL IN THE EARTH BY THE MEANS OF THOSE MIRACLES WHICH HE HAD POWER TO DO ))If a False Prophet can work miracles, Preach, Teach and appear even as if he was righteous?
The Bible is not 100% true. If you believe so, you have been deluded, as surely as these 'False Prophets' you believe intend you to be.
If you believe the bible to be true, you believe that God can change, as in the Old Testament he was full of wrath, and vengeance upon non-believers, yet in the New Testament he is more tolerant, and preaching love of thy enemy. Do you believe your God would wish pain, and suffering on someone who does not believe, through his own ignorance or others' misguidance? The Old Testament would suggest that he would, yet the New Testament suggest he would not. Which is it to be?
If you believe that God CAN change his temperament, then how do we know he hasn't changed his mind yet again in the past thousand years?
The Bible is a collection of stories written by MAN in order to educate masses about a religion. If God is real, we are presumptuous to believe we would understand his message, and properly document it, and preserve it uncorrupted, for thousands of years. Man is fallible, and therefore the bible cannot be trusted to be the original message a god would have given us.
You want to know the truth about God, and life after death? Stop worrying, live your life in a manner in which you feel is good, and you will find out on the day you die whether you were correct. That day will come.
I don't expect a reasonable debate here, by the way, only religious rhetoric and blindness. I hope your blindness brings you the peace most of us crave, yet are too intelligent to find in organized religion.If a False Prophet can work miracles, Preach, Teach and appear even as if he was righteous?
Thanks, but I think you missed my point :) Jesus, again was a man. Not a god. He never claimed to be a 'Son' of God, merely a prophet. If your god exists, then he would not have come down from 'heaven' and decided to pick up a pen and write a book. The Bible was written by Man, and therefore suspect
If satan himself can appear as an angel of light, how do you discern the spirits? No evil force can ever bring the spirit of peace or blessedness. Only God and His angels can bring that. No matter what happens, even if you see angels descending from heaven above, if you feel anything other than total and complete peacefulness and blessedness, this is not of God. Flee it. As for people who preach and teach false things, you have to know the Bible, the Canons of Faith which teach the proper application of the Scriptures and you have to know God. Good luck with all that.
I interpret that situation as if the people involved deny the Jesus that died on the cross for our sins 2000+ years ago ... theyre false. Also if theyre preaching that you need to break out your wallet and cough up some cash to be righteous ... theyre false or at least in error as they pull out of the parking lot in their beemer.
Compare what they say, to what the Bible says.
The Bible always wins, since the Bible is the absolute Word of God and is 100% true.
Well Christ was selfless and it seems that false ones want your money or your support.
1Jo 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Gods Word Testifies of Himself......and One needs to abide and read and stay in GODS WORD whom Jesus Is.............thats how WE Know His Voice (Word) and a stranger (False prophet) we will Not Follow !!!
One Must study to show themselves approved......for as its written ;';Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
12To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
13But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
If its Not Gods Word, it isnt of God whom Jesus Is !!
2Co 11:14 -
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be (( TRANSFORMED AS THE MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ))
2Pe 2:1 -
But there were false prophets also among the people, (( EVEN AS THERE SHALL BE FALSE TEACHERS AMONG YOU ))
Re 13:14 -
( ( AND DECEIVETH THEM THAT DWELL IN THE EARTH BY THE MEANS OF THOSE MIRACLES WHICH HE HAD POWER TO DO ))If a False Prophet can work miracles, Preach, Teach and appear even as if he was righteous?
The Bible is not 100% true. If you believe so, you have been deluded, as surely as these 'False Prophets' you believe intend you to be.
If you believe the bible to be true, you believe that God can change, as in the Old Testament he was full of wrath, and vengeance upon non-believers, yet in the New Testament he is more tolerant, and preaching love of thy enemy. Do you believe your God would wish pain, and suffering on someone who does not believe, through his own ignorance or others' misguidance? The Old Testament would suggest that he would, yet the New Testament suggest he would not. Which is it to be?
If you believe that God CAN change his temperament, then how do we know he hasn't changed his mind yet again in the past thousand years?
The Bible is a collection of stories written by MAN in order to educate masses about a religion. If God is real, we are presumptuous to believe we would understand his message, and properly document it, and preserve it uncorrupted, for thousands of years. Man is fallible, and therefore the bible cannot be trusted to be the original message a god would have given us.
You want to know the truth about God, and life after death? Stop worrying, live your life in a manner in which you feel is good, and you will find out on the day you die whether you were correct. That day will come.
I don't expect a reasonable debate here, by the way, only religious rhetoric and blindness. I hope your blindness brings you the peace most of us crave, yet are too intelligent to find in organized religion.If a False Prophet can work miracles, Preach, Teach and appear even as if he was righteous?
Thanks, but I think you missed my point :) Jesus, again was a man. Not a god. He never claimed to be a 'Son' of God, merely a prophet. If your god exists, then he would not have come down from 'heaven' and decided to pick up a pen and write a book. The Bible was written by Man, and therefore suspect
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If satan himself can appear as an angel of light, how do you discern the spirits? No evil force can ever bring the spirit of peace or blessedness. Only God and His angels can bring that. No matter what happens, even if you see angels descending from heaven above, if you feel anything other than total and complete peacefulness and blessedness, this is not of God. Flee it. As for people who preach and teach false things, you have to know the Bible, the Canons of Faith which teach the proper application of the Scriptures and you have to know God. Good luck with all that.
I interpret that situation as if the people involved deny the Jesus that died on the cross for our sins 2000+ years ago ... theyre false. Also if theyre preaching that you need to break out your wallet and cough up some cash to be righteous ... theyre false or at least in error as they pull out of the parking lot in their beemer.
Compare what they say, to what the Bible says.
The Bible always wins, since the Bible is the absolute Word of God and is 100% true.
Well Christ was selfless and it seems that false ones want your money or your support.
1Jo 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Gods Word Testifies of Himself......and One needs to abide and read and stay in GODS WORD whom Jesus Is.............thats how WE Know His Voice (Word) and a stranger (False prophet) we will Not Follow !!!
One Must study to show themselves approved......for as its written ;';Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
12To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
13But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
If its Not Gods Word, it isnt of God whom Jesus Is !!
Did any of you have parents who taught you that evolution is false.?
When you got an education what did you think about them? Did you understand that they just lacked education or do you think they chose ignorance and tried to make you that way too?
I, honestly, don't remember ever having a discussion about evolution with my parents. My father is a very intelligent man who finished a 30 year career in the Air Force as a Colonel. If I had gone to him and stated the earth is 10,000 years old and dinosaurs walked with Adam and Eve, he would have laughed in my face.Did any of you have parents who taught you that evolution is false.?
I was raised as a JW and they are very much creationists. I was afraid to take biology class in high school because I thought I would have to 'lie' about evolution being true on tests. When I went to college, I still had that 'fear' of evolution and losing faith in God and so I avoided biology classes. I so regret that because now that I am out of that religion and thinking for myself, I know what I missed. I have since read about it and the many ideas surrounding the mechanisms.
As far as my parents go, I think they were brainwashed by the JWs to believe or get out. I think they chose ignorance because they thought they had to, and then they believed the ignorance and 'taught' it to me. Did any of you have parents who taught you that evolution is false.?
I vaguely remember my mom being annoyed that they were teaching about evolution in my science class, but it was never an issue. She's a very intelligent woman who simply hasn't studied a lot of that stuff. The older she gets, the more open-minded she is.
She also didn't like it when our social studies books taught about religious beliefs other than Christianity. Her opinions on that have changed dramatically, too.
Yes of course. My parents loved me enough to tell me the truth. In the beginning God created the heaven %26amp; the earth..This truth has been handed down from parents to children since the beginning of time. Unfortunately there are many who refuse to believe the truth . You and your father appear to be two who do refuse.
You think you are intelligent because you do not believe in creation?
Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
I was taught evolution in primary school. My parents never told me that it was false. What I was grateful for and still is today is that they taught me that God is love and that the creation story is true. Now that I could use my brain and research for myself between evolution and creation; I came to the conclusion that God is real and creation is also.
No. To be perfectly honest we never really discussed it.
My father is a Deist with a degree in chemistry. Science was not my mother's bag, but she was a smart lady.
I spent my childhood watching nature shows. I know some religious people say they see gods work in nature. I saw the majesty of nature and evolution just made sense to me. You don't even need any formal science degree to see how species are related and a god never came into my picture. Evolution wasn't even formally taught when I was in High School. It wasn't till years later in college I had any kind of formal education in evolution.
My folks are super old-school, pre-Vatican II Catholics that don't believe anything the Pope or the Bible doesn't tell them. They are biblical literalists. I was sent to Catholic boarding school my entire life ... and I don't think I once discussed evolution (or really science at all, for that matter) with them.
My being an atheist is a huge deal ... my being a grad student in evolutionary biology/marine science is horrifying to them - especially when topics on the origins of life come up.
We just don't talk about it anymore. It gets ugly. And I really hate to see my folks worked up. I'd like to think they are smart. What they do know and believe, they know well. They are just selectively intelligent, I suppose. Willfully ignorant, for sure. But I love them and their old school ways nonetheless :)
';Did any of you have parents who taught you that evolution is false.?'; - I did not. My parents separated religion from state, and stayed out of my education, except to get my homework done on time. It was my responsibility to learn and prepare for my life, with their help I think I am doing pretty good. My parents understand GOD works mysteriously, and that the gifts we are given help understand our planet, universe, and used to help each other live better.
Peace.
My parents are very religious fundamentalist protestants, and neither went to a day of high school, but both were smart enough to know that the mysteries of creation of the universe and its life were beyond simple story book explanations.
They believed God is ultimately responsible for it all, and that was enough. They never wanted to ignore or argue with basic science.
If we could only get back to such farmer-style common sense.
I was taught that both creationism and evolution were true to an extent. It was up to me to decide what that extent was. At the time, it was rather confusing as each theory seemed to contradict on many levels. But, now I'm very thankful that I wasn't given only one ';truth';. It gave me the Independence to search for my own answers.
Nope they sent me to church, Never need to ask about evaluation because the school crammed it down my throat, so they thought. On my test day the Questions on Evaluation ,I wrote out the truth from the Bible,LOL . She didn't mark them wrong,LOL. I know this my parent my mother is no longer here, but I know she would say the devil will deceive whom ever lets him do so. D+evil=Devil and God+o=good. the Bible mentions of a story before the cleansing of the earth(Noah and the Flood) of the Fowls (UFO possible,lol) having wrong relations with humans and having children that looked thousands of years older then their parents. Noah did live 950 years, and we now only could live 120 years if we obey the Laws of the word and stay healthy. Note in the first 4 books of the Bible their are 613 Laws, now some of witch were for those days Most of witch are still needed today. And even God has his top 10 list ,LOL.
My parents didn't tell me a thing about evolution, What I learned about evolution I learned in high school and college (I did used to be a biology major), and looking at the ';facts'; to support evolution, I'd personally have to say that people and really really REALLY making a HUGE stretch to call it a scientific fact. I came to these conclusions on my own by carefully looking at the arguments and supposed evidence for evolution, and i'm sad to say that it really all falls short.
My Dad was a science teacher and my Mom was a nurse. We had tons of literature lying about the house, but the most we got out of them was nagging about getting the chores done and saying our daily prayers, and our prayers at meal times and our prayers when we slept and when we woke.....nothing about evolution at all. The nuns didn't make any such fuss either. It was a school subject, like Music or Shakespeare
Yes. My fundie parents taught me that god did it. I used to think they were the smartest and most honest people in the world when I was a young child. I was so deeply hurt and disappointed when I learned otherwise. The whole santa thing (and other lies) didn't help either.
My father, who believes in Christ but is not a member of any denomination, believes in evolution.
My mother, Catholic, never showed any interest in talking about it.
Neither of them ever told me evolution was false.
No, evolution is true. Evolution theory is a theory and not a fact. They did not think we evolved the way the evolutionary theory guesses it. My family believes in the Bible record
No, although I had a babysitter who was a YEC. I was four or five and obsessed with dinosaur books, and we got in an argument about carbon dating.
Yeah, I was a weird kid.
They have to be taught that nonsense at an early age and be made terrified by stories like Noah and Elisha and the bears to keep from questioning it .
My parents didn't really acknowledge it one way or the other. My mother had some sort of wacky doublethink mentality where she believed both science and Genesis... probably as a lot of Christians do.
No, thank pasta! My parents are atheists. They mostly let me figure it out for myself (with the help of the public school system).
i originally tried to argue against evolution with my dad (christian) and lost, horribly. now i understand evolution
i don't think my parents have any idea of evolution nor do they care. they don't talk about it.
My parents told me the evolution fairy tale to help me sleep at night.
No. But then, neither of my parents knew dick about science, so they never really mentioned the subject at all.
Nope, my parents were educated too.
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My dad has his MBA from Harvard.
And no. He doesn't think the earth is 6000 years old.
No. My parents did not lie to me.
Yes
my parents let me decide for myself
my parents never made it an issue
No. I figured it out myself (with God's help).
On another subject, I was just looking at your profile and your quote from Abraham Lincoln. I would like to point out that Lincoln was not converted until shortly before his death. He grieved a long time over the death of his son and one day a Christian was talking to him and reminded him that he would see his son again in heaven. It was at that moment that he ';saw the light'; and trusted Christ. So it doesn't surprise me that he made a remark like that in earlier years.
nope
my mother was atheist
and public schools taught me what to believe.
which is evolution
it was the appearance of jesus in a vision of glory that proved to me that evolution is wrong.
the book of genesis says that God created man to till the earth. he created man from the dust, the mud and elements of the earth. He created EVE from the rib of adam. NOPE created beings both of them.
I, honestly, don't remember ever having a discussion about evolution with my parents. My father is a very intelligent man who finished a 30 year career in the Air Force as a Colonel. If I had gone to him and stated the earth is 10,000 years old and dinosaurs walked with Adam and Eve, he would have laughed in my face.Did any of you have parents who taught you that evolution is false.?
I was raised as a JW and they are very much creationists. I was afraid to take biology class in high school because I thought I would have to 'lie' about evolution being true on tests. When I went to college, I still had that 'fear' of evolution and losing faith in God and so I avoided biology classes. I so regret that because now that I am out of that religion and thinking for myself, I know what I missed. I have since read about it and the many ideas surrounding the mechanisms.
As far as my parents go, I think they were brainwashed by the JWs to believe or get out. I think they chose ignorance because they thought they had to, and then they believed the ignorance and 'taught' it to me. Did any of you have parents who taught you that evolution is false.?
I vaguely remember my mom being annoyed that they were teaching about evolution in my science class, but it was never an issue. She's a very intelligent woman who simply hasn't studied a lot of that stuff. The older she gets, the more open-minded she is.
She also didn't like it when our social studies books taught about religious beliefs other than Christianity. Her opinions on that have changed dramatically, too.
Yes of course. My parents loved me enough to tell me the truth. In the beginning God created the heaven %26amp; the earth..This truth has been handed down from parents to children since the beginning of time. Unfortunately there are many who refuse to believe the truth . You and your father appear to be two who do refuse.
You think you are intelligent because you do not believe in creation?
Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
I was taught evolution in primary school. My parents never told me that it was false. What I was grateful for and still is today is that they taught me that God is love and that the creation story is true. Now that I could use my brain and research for myself between evolution and creation; I came to the conclusion that God is real and creation is also.
No. To be perfectly honest we never really discussed it.
My father is a Deist with a degree in chemistry. Science was not my mother's bag, but she was a smart lady.
I spent my childhood watching nature shows. I know some religious people say they see gods work in nature. I saw the majesty of nature and evolution just made sense to me. You don't even need any formal science degree to see how species are related and a god never came into my picture. Evolution wasn't even formally taught when I was in High School. It wasn't till years later in college I had any kind of formal education in evolution.
My folks are super old-school, pre-Vatican II Catholics that don't believe anything the Pope or the Bible doesn't tell them. They are biblical literalists. I was sent to Catholic boarding school my entire life ... and I don't think I once discussed evolution (or really science at all, for that matter) with them.
My being an atheist is a huge deal ... my being a grad student in evolutionary biology/marine science is horrifying to them - especially when topics on the origins of life come up.
We just don't talk about it anymore. It gets ugly. And I really hate to see my folks worked up. I'd like to think they are smart. What they do know and believe, they know well. They are just selectively intelligent, I suppose. Willfully ignorant, for sure. But I love them and their old school ways nonetheless :)
';Did any of you have parents who taught you that evolution is false.?'; - I did not. My parents separated religion from state, and stayed out of my education, except to get my homework done on time. It was my responsibility to learn and prepare for my life, with their help I think I am doing pretty good. My parents understand GOD works mysteriously, and that the gifts we are given help understand our planet, universe, and used to help each other live better.
Peace.
My parents are very religious fundamentalist protestants, and neither went to a day of high school, but both were smart enough to know that the mysteries of creation of the universe and its life were beyond simple story book explanations.
They believed God is ultimately responsible for it all, and that was enough. They never wanted to ignore or argue with basic science.
If we could only get back to such farmer-style common sense.
I was taught that both creationism and evolution were true to an extent. It was up to me to decide what that extent was. At the time, it was rather confusing as each theory seemed to contradict on many levels. But, now I'm very thankful that I wasn't given only one ';truth';. It gave me the Independence to search for my own answers.
Nope they sent me to church, Never need to ask about evaluation because the school crammed it down my throat, so they thought. On my test day the Questions on Evaluation ,I wrote out the truth from the Bible,LOL . She didn't mark them wrong,LOL. I know this my parent my mother is no longer here, but I know she would say the devil will deceive whom ever lets him do so. D+evil=Devil and God+o=good. the Bible mentions of a story before the cleansing of the earth(Noah and the Flood) of the Fowls (UFO possible,lol) having wrong relations with humans and having children that looked thousands of years older then their parents. Noah did live 950 years, and we now only could live 120 years if we obey the Laws of the word and stay healthy. Note in the first 4 books of the Bible their are 613 Laws, now some of witch were for those days Most of witch are still needed today. And even God has his top 10 list ,LOL.
My parents didn't tell me a thing about evolution, What I learned about evolution I learned in high school and college (I did used to be a biology major), and looking at the ';facts'; to support evolution, I'd personally have to say that people and really really REALLY making a HUGE stretch to call it a scientific fact. I came to these conclusions on my own by carefully looking at the arguments and supposed evidence for evolution, and i'm sad to say that it really all falls short.
My Dad was a science teacher and my Mom was a nurse. We had tons of literature lying about the house, but the most we got out of them was nagging about getting the chores done and saying our daily prayers, and our prayers at meal times and our prayers when we slept and when we woke.....nothing about evolution at all. The nuns didn't make any such fuss either. It was a school subject, like Music or Shakespeare
Yes. My fundie parents taught me that god did it. I used to think they were the smartest and most honest people in the world when I was a young child. I was so deeply hurt and disappointed when I learned otherwise. The whole santa thing (and other lies) didn't help either.
My father, who believes in Christ but is not a member of any denomination, believes in evolution.
My mother, Catholic, never showed any interest in talking about it.
Neither of them ever told me evolution was false.
No, evolution is true. Evolution theory is a theory and not a fact. They did not think we evolved the way the evolutionary theory guesses it. My family believes in the Bible record
No, although I had a babysitter who was a YEC. I was four or five and obsessed with dinosaur books, and we got in an argument about carbon dating.
Yeah, I was a weird kid.
They have to be taught that nonsense at an early age and be made terrified by stories like Noah and Elisha and the bears to keep from questioning it .
My parents didn't really acknowledge it one way or the other. My mother had some sort of wacky doublethink mentality where she believed both science and Genesis... probably as a lot of Christians do.
No, thank pasta! My parents are atheists. They mostly let me figure it out for myself (with the help of the public school system).
i originally tried to argue against evolution with my dad (christian) and lost, horribly. now i understand evolution
i don't think my parents have any idea of evolution nor do they care. they don't talk about it.
My parents told me the evolution fairy tale to help me sleep at night.
No. But then, neither of my parents knew dick about science, so they never really mentioned the subject at all.
Nope, my parents were educated too.
____
My dad has his MBA from Harvard.
And no. He doesn't think the earth is 6000 years old.
No. My parents did not lie to me.
Yes
my parents let me decide for myself
my parents never made it an issue
No. I figured it out myself (with God's help).
On another subject, I was just looking at your profile and your quote from Abraham Lincoln. I would like to point out that Lincoln was not converted until shortly before his death. He grieved a long time over the death of his son and one day a Christian was talking to him and reminded him that he would see his son again in heaven. It was at that moment that he ';saw the light'; and trusted Christ. So it doesn't surprise me that he made a remark like that in earlier years.
nope
my mother was atheist
and public schools taught me what to believe.
which is evolution
it was the appearance of jesus in a vision of glory that proved to me that evolution is wrong.
the book of genesis says that God created man to till the earth. he created man from the dust, the mud and elements of the earth. He created EVE from the rib of adam. NOPE created beings both of them.
Does the Bible say that anyone who teaches against the Torah is a false prophet or?
that we should beware of their teachings? Please quote chapter and verse. If you don't know, please don't answer. Thank you!Does the Bible say that anyone who teaches against the Torah is a false prophet or?
deuteronomy chapter 13 verse 2. '; if there should stand up in your midst a prophet or a dreamer, and he will produce a sign or a wonder and says let us follow in the ways of another god, and we shall worship them...do not harken to the word of this prophet.'; this verse is illuding to false prophets or gods, such as jesus and mohammed. these prophets arose and told the people to follow in a diffrent direction then the torah, therefore you should not follow in their ways but only worship the true god of israel.Does the Bible say that anyone who teaches against the Torah is a false prophet or?
dseid is the best answerer!! i would never have known that source! keep up the good work dseid- ur pic is cute...wink wink
-cutsey
Not specifically , but Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for their strict interpretation of OT Law ...which is what the Torah is....it is a compilation of legalistic rules taken to the infinite detail...and completely ignores the mercy and judgment of God.
the bible does not say anything,its what you read.
The Torah is the Law, the first 5 books of the Bible. Of course you aren't suppose to teache against the first 5 books of the Bible, or any other part of the Bible.......
It doesn't SAY anything....it READS!
Deut 13 gives the criteria for telling who is a false prophet.
Jesus was a basically observant orthodox Jew from the West Bank.
He did not outwardly preach against the Torah. In fact, Jesus observed most commandments and told his Jewish followers to do the same.
The Christians Bible has Jesus violating the Torah, by being rude and making fun of the learned elders.
Do you have your books straight The torah is the old testment?
deuteronomy chapter 13 verse 2. '; if there should stand up in your midst a prophet or a dreamer, and he will produce a sign or a wonder and says let us follow in the ways of another god, and we shall worship them...do not harken to the word of this prophet.'; this verse is illuding to false prophets or gods, such as jesus and mohammed. these prophets arose and told the people to follow in a diffrent direction then the torah, therefore you should not follow in their ways but only worship the true god of israel.Does the Bible say that anyone who teaches against the Torah is a false prophet or?
dseid is the best answerer!! i would never have known that source! keep up the good work dseid- ur pic is cute...wink wink
-cutsey
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Not specifically , but Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for their strict interpretation of OT Law ...which is what the Torah is....it is a compilation of legalistic rules taken to the infinite detail...and completely ignores the mercy and judgment of God.
the bible does not say anything,its what you read.
The Torah is the Law, the first 5 books of the Bible. Of course you aren't suppose to teache against the first 5 books of the Bible, or any other part of the Bible.......
It doesn't SAY anything....it READS!
Deut 13 gives the criteria for telling who is a false prophet.
Jesus was a basically observant orthodox Jew from the West Bank.
He did not outwardly preach against the Torah. In fact, Jesus observed most commandments and told his Jewish followers to do the same.
The Christians Bible has Jesus violating the Torah, by being rude and making fun of the learned elders.
Do you have your books straight The torah is the old testment?
True or False those who can't do teach?
actually not only do I find it offensive i find it untrue. My mother has taught all of her life and has done more things for people then most Christians I know.True or False those who can't do teach?
falseTrue or False those who can't do teach?
False, if you can't don't teach. We need teachers that have experience in the field or they are worthless.
False. I don't believe that at all. If someone isn't good enough to do something then how can they properly teach it?
i can't understand u.. xoRi
False... it is tuff to teach things you cannot do.
False - I'd probably be a lot more in my element if I were in a position to ';do';, but I felt that teaching was a better road to take.
Well if you rephrase that I could answer
I heard that quote from somewhere...
Not always true but it can be. You must look at the level of teaching whether it be grammer school, high school, or higher education. Lots of professors have been very successful in their fields, and just have the love of teaching others, and sharing their knowledge with others. Knowledge should be shared. However there are many who did the work got the diploma, couldn't succeed, and therefore got a teaching job because they knew the material, or the process, and could just send it on. It can go both ways, There are certainly those that can't and teach, and those that have succeeded, and want to pass their knowledge along.
I'd say false...
Hey did you watch Urban Legends 2 as well today? I heard them say that before they shot the teacher.
falseTrue or False those who can't do teach?
False, if you can't don't teach. We need teachers that have experience in the field or they are worthless.
False. I don't believe that at all. If someone isn't good enough to do something then how can they properly teach it?
i can't understand u.. xoRi
False... it is tuff to teach things you cannot do.
False - I'd probably be a lot more in my element if I were in a position to ';do';, but I felt that teaching was a better road to take.
Well if you rephrase that I could answer
I heard that quote from somewhere...
Not always true but it can be. You must look at the level of teaching whether it be grammer school, high school, or higher education. Lots of professors have been very successful in their fields, and just have the love of teaching others, and sharing their knowledge with others. Knowledge should be shared. However there are many who did the work got the diploma, couldn't succeed, and therefore got a teaching job because they knew the material, or the process, and could just send it on. It can go both ways, There are certainly those that can't and teach, and those that have succeeded, and want to pass their knowledge along.
I'd say false...
Hey did you watch Urban Legends 2 as well today? I heard them say that before they shot the teacher.
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