The problem with most professing Christians is that while reading the Bible they do not properly understand who certain verses are addressing. The whole Bible is for us to learn from but not everything is written specifically to believers in this age of grace. The church has not replaced Israel, as gentiles we have never been under Mosaic law.
A believer should take their example of what a Christian believer is from the epistles written by the apostle Paul who was given a ';mystery'; just for us!Do sabbath keepers teach a false gospel?
They believe you have to keep the ten commandments as they were originally written by the finger of God in stone (which includes the statement that the seventh day is the sabbath). All other Christians worship on the eighth day, which is sunday.
If you take the bible literally it actually makes more sense to worship on saturday if you follow the ten commandments. Otherwise, a more thorough explanation is needed (from the catechism of the Catholic church):
Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ's Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man's eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ:
Those who lived according to the old order of things have come to a new hope, no longer keeping the sabbath, but the Lord's Day, in which our life is blessed by him and by his death.
The celebration of Sunday observes the moral commandment inscribed by nature in the human heart to render to God an outward, visible, public, and regular worship ';as a sign of his universal beneficence to all.'; Sunday worship fulfills the moral command of the Old Covenant, taking up its rhythm and spirit in the weekly celebration of the Creator and Redeemer of his people.
I grew up in a Seventh Day Adventist home. They scared you into believing that they are the ';right religion';, they honestly believe there will be a day where all Seventh Day Adventists will have to ';run to the mountains'; because they will be persecuted due to their beliefs. They believe that those who are not Seventh Day Adventist will ';not be saved';. I went to private Adventist schools and by the time I graduated I sincerely felt they were Nutters. I now don't believe in any religious fantasies....
Is there a command in the New Testament to keep the sabbath day holy? For more information about the Sabbath, read here:
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Those of The True Church should keep The Sabbath as commanded by God... most do not... and that is indeed a sin... but... it is not sin that keeps any one from entering Heaven... it is rejecting God that keep so many from receiving His free, and eternal, gift of Salvation.
Only those who come to God in The Way He prescribes will enter Heaven.
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keeping the sabbath was part of the law for the Jew. It never had anything to do with salvation. it has to do with a land grant and peaceful lives given by God. Im not a Jew. I am under grace not the law. the law was never for me.
I agree with you mostly..... In this sense it is a denominational doctrine. Therefor for them, it would be a sin not to keep the sabbath. Just like those of the Church of Christ believe that it is a sin to use instruments during worship. Its not scriptural....%26gt;
Since when is keeping the Ten Commandments a false gospel?
The 4th Commandment...Remember The Sabbath Day and keep it Holy....
read the Bible....even Revelations mentions the Sabbath....
Yes. They are the modern day equivalent of the Pharisees that Jesus loathed. Jesus said, ';You keep people out of the Kingdom, while you yourselves, fail to enter in.';
I agree with you. And if they are saved by grace, can we not also be saved by grace, or unmerited, undeserved favor?
Ellen White Space Cadet
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Welcome to the imperfect, man made phenomenon we call religion.
you are correct.
we are saved by grace...
They are not to be judged:
Col 2:16 Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day--
%26gt; Who are the ';mankind'; observing the Sabbath in Isaiah v.66:23 and who are the ';corpses'; in v.66:24 under the ';new heavens and the new earth';?
Isa 66:22 ';For just as the new heavens and the new earth Which I make will endure before Me,'; declares the LORD, ';So your offspring and your name will endure.
Isa 66:23 ';And it shall be from new moon to new moon And from sabbath to sabbath, All mankind will come to bow down before Me,'; says the LORD.
Isa 66:24 ';Then they shall go forth and look On the corpses of the men Who have transgressed against Me. For their worm shall not die, And their fire shall not be quenched; And they shall be an abhorrence to all mankind.';
%26gt; The same new heaven and new earth is recorded in the NT:
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea.
%26gt; The ';heart of stone'; will be replaced with a ';new spirit'; into a heart of flesh. Will these people keep the commandments of the written Torah or continue to reject them? Is this text in Ezekiel in relation to ISRAEL or the gentiles?:
Ezek 11:15 ';Son of man, your brothers, your relatives, your fellow exiles, and the whole *house of Israel*, all of them, are those to whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said, 'Go far from the LORD; this land has been given us as a possession.' ...
Ezek 11:19 ';And I shall give them one heart, and shall put a new spirit within them. And I shall take the heart of stone out of their flesh and give them a heart of flesh,
Ezek 11:20 that they may walk in My statutes and keep My ordinances, and do them. Then they will be My people, and I shall be their God.
%26gt;%26gt; In context to Ezekiel above, will God place His Spirit into a heart of flesh among the people of ISRAEL, or into a ';gentile'; nation with a stoney heart?
%26gt; Remember, Joshua and Caleb of Israel were faithful to the Torah:
Num 32:12 Save Caleb the son of Jephunneh the Kenezite, and Joshua the son of Nun: for they have wholly followed the LORD.
Spiritually is ';Christianity'; more like Joshua and Caleb who were faithful, or the generation that did not enter into the Land, into the Kingdom of God, into His rest?
Well, as for the Seventh Day Adventists, none of them keep the Sabbath according to the full Biblical requirements. They justify this by claiming, according to Ellen White, that some Sabbath regulations were ceremonial, while others were everlasting. Basically, they pick and choose the requirements that they find culturally convenient. Even within the church, there is hardly any general consensus about exactly how to keep the Sabbath.
I was raised in the church, but I left it in the late 1980s. I remember my mother and father used to quarrel over outdoor activities such as walking. They believed that God permitted a “nature walk” on the Sabbath, but not exercise. My mother sometimes criticized my father for walking too far with us, or not pausing to enjoy God’s creation.
My dad loved to eat Spaghetti for lunch on Sabbath, but my mother objected to him boiling water (although microwaving water was OK).
When I left the church, my grandmother and aunt reminded me that those who reject the “Sabbath truth” will receive the mark of the beast in the last days (meaning they would not have eternal life).
I remember that our church got involved in a basketball league for community churches. My father loved playing in that league and our team did very well. But someone reported it to the general conference and we had to cancel the team because Ellen White opposes competitive sports.
My father was fond of eating steak and also loved fishing. But my mother kept quoting Ellen White where she said that eating meat inflames us with base animal passions. She told him that he was rejecting the health message.
Since then, she’s mellowed out a lot and isn’t so strict. But back when I was a member, there was always a conflict between the strict SDAs and the more liberal group.
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