Why do Baptists believe in the false doctrine of ';once saved always saved'; when the Bible teaches otherwise?

';If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries.'; - Heb 10:26





';But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.'; - Matt 24:13





';See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you remain in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off.'; - Rom 11:22





';Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, 10 but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.'; - Matt 7:21





';No, I drive my body and train it, for fear that, after having preached to others, I myself should be disqualified. - 1 Cor 9:27





';So then, my beloved, obedient as you have always been, not only when I am present but all the more now when I am absent, work out your salvation with fear and trembling.'; - Phil 2:12Why do Baptists believe in the false doctrine of ';once saved always saved'; when the Bible teaches otherwise?
Their ';once saved always saved'; falls flat with one simple question: what happens to the person who adamantly rejects God’s forgiveness AFTER they were previously saved?





By their stand, no matter what you do from here on out, Jesus will forgive any and all sins. However, you will receive His forgiveness only if you are willing to accept it. They forget that God never disrespects our free will; His forgiveness is never forced upon us, but given to us as a choice. If we accept it, then we have His mercy. If we reject it, what is God to do? He cannot force anyone to love Him. According to “once saved always saved” that sinful rejection would be forgiven also, in effect, forcing the unrepentant sinner to accept heaven. This principle directly contradicts the gift of free will that we all have.





The opposite, then, that we must strive ever more to flee from our sinfulness and work to perfect ourselves in Jesus is the truth. I think the Protestants were looking for a backstage pass. Do they forget, Jesus said that every penny will be counted?Why do Baptists believe in the false doctrine of ';once saved always saved'; when the Bible teaches otherwise?
Yes it is true once saved always saved don't let anyone tell you otherwise ';Fear is not of God';:





Once a person is saved are they always saved? When people come to know Christ as their Savior, they are brought into a relationship with God that guarantees their salvation as eternally secure. Numerous passages of Scripture declare this fact. (a) Romans 8:30 declares, ';And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified.'; This verse tells us that from the moment God chooses us, it is as if we are glorified in His presence in heaven. There is nothing that can prevent a believer from one day being glorified because God has already purposed it in heaven. Once a person is justified, his salvation is guaranteed - he is as secure as if he is already glorified in heaven.





(b) Paul asks two crucial questions in Romans 8:33-34 ';Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died more than that, who was raised to life - is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.'; Who will bring a charge against God's elect? No one will, because Christ is our advocate. Who will condemn us? No one will, because Christ, the One who died for us, is the one who condemns. We have both the advocate and judge as our Savior.





(c) Believers are born again (regenerated) when they believe (John 3:3; Titus 3:5). For a Christian to lose his salvation, he would have to be un-regenerated. The Bible gives no evidence that the new birth can be taken away. (d) The Holy Spirit indwells all believers (John 14:17; Romans 8:9) and baptizes all believers into the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:13). For a believer to become unsaved, he would have to be ';un-indwelt'; and detached from the Body of Christ.





(e) John 3:15 states that whoever believes in Jesus Christ will ';have eternal life.'; If you believe in Christ today and have eternal life, but lose it tomorrow, then it was never ';eternal'; at all. Hence if you lose your salvation, the promises of eternal life in the Bible would be in error. (f) For the most conclusive argument, I think Scripture says it best itself, ';For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord'; (Romans 8:38-39). Remember the same God who saved you is the same God who will keep you. Once we are saved we are always saved. Our salvation is most definitely eternally secure
Or this passage written by Paul at the end of his life:





2 Timothy 4:6-8 (King James Version)





6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.





7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:





8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.





He specifically says he has ';kept the faith'; and the next word is key ';HENCEFORTH'; there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness. He makes it very clear that it was necessary to keep the faith to receive the reward.
The meaning in the Greek form for the word saved is ';SOZO'; which means to heal, escape peril, radical change in ones life. Look it up. It is Strongs #G4982.





I'm not Baptist, but I do understand exactly your point, and the point in scripture. But when these things are said, it is almost like Roman Catholics saying if you die in mortal sin you will go to hell.





NOTHING is strong enough to take me or anybody else out of the hand of God if we are His.





I think you have a VERY good argument for the mass of people that make an ';altar call'; based on a 1 time religious feeling and put their eternal security in that one moment and not take their new lifestyle one more step.





If you truly are saved, I believe based on evidence, that you will transform into the life God has for you. Judge them by their fruits.





Let me ask this to you......If you died right now, as a believer in Our Lord Jesus the Christ, without a repentance of your LAST sin, would you go to hell??????





If you say yes, I believe that you are mistaken. And clearly goes against what scripture teaches.
If by saved you mean the salvation of your everlasting soul.


In the words of the Saints-';There is no salvation outside of The Catholic Church';.





To prove it all one need do is visit the Vatican library or look at the lives of the saints. The saints are remembered everyday in every Catholic Church in every city in the world.


They are also remembered on their special saints days and we too Share in those special days by the choice of our baptismal and confirmation names you want salvation- RUN TO the nearest Catholic Church and ask !
The finite Bible does NOT Teach in Spirit and in Truth !





ONLY JESUS here with us Teaches all sincere humans in God's Spirit and in JESUS' ALL TRUTH !





JESUS SAVES AS HE DESIRES for us !! See and believe also John 12:31-32 !





If you don't yet know Him and His continual Revelation; begin by prayerful reflections in Spirit and in Truth when you read these finite Bible few words: John 16:7-16





If you are Eternal Spirit-Born a Son of God in Jesus, You ARE ETERNAL ! Once Eternally saved, Eternally Saved !





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Their argument was if you are ';saved'; then you will live as Jesus taught and you will ';always'; be saved. If you don't live right then you were never saved to begin with.





I say the reason for all the '; '; is when your hypothesis is flimsy to start with you need more loop holes.
The Bible dose not teach otherwise... however... I knew nothing of the doctrin of eternal security on the day and at the instant of my Salvation... I Received God's Free Gift of Salvation and God's personal promise to me of the Security of my Salvation... not just mine but the Salvation of all who come to God in The Way He prescribes... I did not even own a Bible and had no honest study in it...Knowledge of The Bible is not a requirement for Salvation... I know what God has promised... All who are of The Church will enter Heaven. Once one is of The Church there is no power that can take them out.
That is just as good as christians believing that their just god can pre-destine people he ';loves'; to hell.
It is another example of miss-interpreting verses.
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I am Christian but the Baptist are decieved in thinking once saved it will send a lot of people to hell..