Thursday, February 4, 2010

What do you think of Joel Osteen is he false/false teaching or is he true and a man of God/anointed?

Please explain. I'm reading both of his books right now. But he seems to be a broken record. He seems to say the same things over and over again.What do you think of Joel Osteen is he false/false teaching or is he true and a man of God/anointed?
He teaches about God and the Bible, but i think he's in it for the money...What do you think of Joel Osteen is he false/false teaching or is he true and a man of God/anointed?
The bible says you can identify a false preacher by the way they live their lives. You can also take what Osteen is teaching and compare it with the bible. If it contradicts then you know that his teachings are not biblically based.





Maybe the reason for his repetitiveness is so it can stick in people's mind. Or it could be subtle differences of the same concept. IDK, I've only heard him teach. I've never read his books.
I find that of a lot of famous preachers.





They all seem to repeat themselves over and over again.





And he is a televangelist. He can't come up with anything too pithy or insightful or he'll loose his audience. He knows what they want to here and gives it to them.





Just like any other performer.





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Don't know that anything he says is ';false'; (although I personally think it is, but I am not a believer.) He's just not going for the ';thinking'; believer. Meaning they don't question, they just believe. That's fine I guess, but it sounds like your looking for more than he offers.





And I am always suspect of anyone who says ';follow me I have the answers....and while your at it, if you like my message, send me some cash to show your application!'; Some are more sly about it, but that's basically what a televangelist does.





OH, and then the write books. So that way you buy it, giving him more money, but at least you have something tangible.





That smacks of someone looking to make a buck. Not a true spiritual leader. He found a hook, and exploited it.
Clive summarized the history fairly well above to which I would only footnote that in essence Joel Osteen's teachings are a mixture of 19th century New Thought philosophy with 1950's Positive Mental Attitude (PMA, Norman Vincent Peale, Robert Schuller) wrapped around 1980's Prosperity Word Faith Gospel/ New Age psychology.





A form of ';Christianized'; Tony Robbins if you like.





If you are a serious, in depth bible student best to stay clear since a bible scholar Joel is not.
I try not to focus on his flaws as I have my own logs that need to come out of my own eye first. I can say that if you need repentance (we all do) and you need forgiveness (and we all do), Joel Olsteen is not the man for you. According to him everyone is fine and the way he preaches I would never assume that I'm on my way to hell unless I have Jesus...
Read your Bible......





osteen is a false babble that has nothing to do with God's word...just a tickling of the ear and a jingle of coin....waste of time...








Those who know the word of God do not waste their time listening to such tv babble infomercial pretending to be holy ...
He is teaching truth as the Bible says in Psalms 37 if you follow God's way he will give you the desires of your heart. There are blessing in doing God's will.


Now! We as Christians are tried as by fire and we are to pass that test and come forth as gold when we are tried. God has to see what is in our hearts concerning him.


Our relationship with him is brought out as a bride and groom.


Just like a Jewish wedding, Jesus has gone away to prepare us a home and when his Father says that home is prepared, then Jesus will come for us.


But Joel is not teaching anything against the Bible.


And I believe God wants him to teach us the things he is teaching.


I think there are great blessing in every direction when we do God's will here on this earth.
Hes Not a God Anointed Preacher Man...now He may be Godly in Spirit...but as far as a Preacher or Pastor..no..Hes more along the lines of a motivational speaker thats it...
He's as true as anyone who claims to know an absolute truth.





Be skeptical of those who claim to have the answer, and be eager to follow those seeking the answers.
False false false...


Anybody that uses religion as a business sends off warning bells to me.
I dont believe his teachings are deep but I also dont believe he's a false teacher.
By George I think you got it!..... can the books... pick up The Book and study The Word... don't bother any more with that... ummmmm.... individual....





can you say opportunistic con man who got lucky?
He's a liar and a con man, just like every other televangelist.
Do you know how big his ';church'; is?? There is also a fee.





He keeps talking about what to do with Life and not talk about Jesus.
Televangelist.





He's in it for the money.
I like Joel Osteen but i will not be the one to judge him
Well then he just suckered yet another person out of 18 bucks! Yee-haw!
He's a true man of god AND a con artist.
so he can make money over and over again. lol
I tend to stay away from 'salesmen'. %26lt;')))%26gt;%26lt;
He is someone who is telling the people what they want to hear.The bible warns us of people like that.
Name it, claim it';; the ';health-and-wealth'; or ';prosperity gospel';: these are nicknames for a heresy that in many respects is only an extreme version of perhaps the most typical focus of American Christianity today more generally. Basically, God is there for you and your happiness. He has some rules and principles for getting what you want out of life and if you follow them, you can have what you want. Just ';declare it'; and prosperity will come to you. God as Personal Shopper.





Although explicit proponents of the so-called ';prosperity gospel'; may be fewer than their influence suggests, its big names and best-selling authors (T. D. Jakes, Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen, and Joyce Meyer) are purveyors of a pagan worldview with a peculiarly American flavor. It's basically what the sixteenth century German monk turned church reformer Martin Luther called the ';theology of glory';: How can I climb the ladder and attain the glory here and now that God has actually promised for us after a life of suffering? The contrast is the ';theology of the cross';: the story of God's merciful descent to us, at great personal cost, a message that the Apostle Paul acknowledged was offensive and ';foolish to Greeks.';





The attraction of Americans to this version of the ';glory story'; is evident in the astonishing success of Joel Osteen's runaway best-seller, Your Best Life Now: Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential. Beyond his charming personality and folksy style, Osteen's phenomenal attraction is no doubt related to his simple and soothing sampler of the American gospel: a blend of Christian and cultural elements that he picked up not through any formal training, but as the son of a Baptist-turned-prosperity evangelist who was a favorite on the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN). However, gone are the eccentric caricatures of ';prosperity'; televangelism, with its flamboyant style and over-the-top rhetoric.





In the Wal-Mart era of religion and spirituality, every particular creed and any denominational distinctives get watered down. We don't hear (at least explicitly) about our being ';little gods,'; ';part and parcel of God,'; or the blood of Christ as a talisman for healing and prosperity. The strange teachings of his father's generation, still regularly heard on TBN, are not explored in any depth. In fact, nothing is explored in any depth. Osteen still uses the telltale lingo of the health-and-wealth evangelists: ';Declare it,'; ';speak it,'; ';claim it,'; and so forth, but there are no dramatic, made-for-TV healing lines. The pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, TX, which now owns the Compaq Center, does not come across as a flashy evangelist with jets and yachts, but as a charming next-door-neighbor who always has something nice to say.





Although remarkably gifted at the social psychology of television, Joel Osteen is hardly unique. In fact, his explicit drumbeat of prosperity (word-faith) teaching is communicated in the terms and the ambiance that might be difficult to distinguish from most megachurches. Joel Osteen is the next generation of the health-and-wealth gospel. This time, it's mainstream.





As community philosopher Karl Marx said of a consumer-driven culture, ';All that is solid melts into the air.'; Religion, too, becomes a commodity-a product or therapy that we can buy and use for our personal well-being. Exemplifying the moralistic and therapeutic approach to religion, Osteen's message is also a good example of the inability of Boomers to mourn in the face of God's judgment or dance under the liberating news of God's saving mercy. In other words, all gravity is lost-both the gravity of our problem and of God's amazing grace. According to this message, we are not helpless sinners-the ungodly-who need a one-sided divine rescue. (Americans, but especially we Boomers, don't take bad news well.) Rather, we are good people who just need a little instruction and motivation.





There is no condemnation in Osteen's message for failing to fulfill God's righteous law. On the other hand, there is no justification. Instead of either message, there is an upbeat moralism that is somewhere in the middle: Do your best, follow the instructions I give you, and God will make your life successful. ';Don't sit back passively,'; he warns, but with a gentle pleading suggests that the only reason we need to follow his advice is because it's useful for getting what we want. God is a buddy or partner who exists primarily to make sure we are happy. ';You do your part, and God will do his part.'; ';Sure we have our faults,'; he says, but ';the good news is, God loves us anyway.'; Instead of accepting God's just verdict on our own righteousness and fleeing to Christ for justification, Osteen counsels readers simply to reject guilt and condemnation. Yet it is hard to do that successfully when God's favor and blessing on my life depend entirely on how well I can put his commands to work. ';If you will simply obey his commands, He will change things in your

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