Sunday, February 7, 2010

I need facts to prove that the Rapture is a false teaching.?

READ I THESSALONIANS 5I need facts to prove that the Rapture is a false teaching.?
Wow those kids have awesome answers!!!!!...the rapture is real even if the word is not used in that form, it is a word to understand the meaning.I need facts to prove that the Rapture is a false teaching.?
Maybe the emphasis is on the wrong points, like what if you die before the dn of the world and that is rapture. versus people still living or possible returned for negative reasons.
I had to delete my previous answer when i read the comments by Truth Hurts, with source as the Watchtower. Mine was not very specific. So i agree with her explanation
It called the great snatching away,


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Dear Heriberto,





Why do you need facts to prove something is a false teaching if you do not know why it is a false teaching? It seems that you've already determined to believe something without any facts to support your belief.





Having examined the evidence i would have to tell you that in terms of what is taught in God's Word -- the Bible the Rapture is going to happen. While people may disagree as to when it will happen (depending on your eschatological belief- eschatology- is the study of the end times)... it is a biblical teaching.





I believe one of the brothers who answered this question gave some excellent passages from 1 Thessalonians, 2 Corinthians, etc. that explain the rapture.





Hope that helps,





Nickster
‘Caught Away to Meet the Lord’—How?





THE countdown to the end of the present wicked system continues irrevocably. With the passing of every hour, every minute, every second, we approach striking events prophesied long ago. Is the rapture one of these? If it is, when and how will it occur?





The word “rapture” does not appear in the Bible. But those who believe in it cite the apostle Paul’s words at 1 Thessalonians 4:17 as the basis for their belief. Let us examine this scripture in its context. Paul wrote:





“Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping in death; that you may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope. For if our faith is that Jesus died and rose again, so, too, those who have fallen asleep in death through Jesus God will bring with him. For this is what we tell you by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep in death; because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Consequently keep comforting one another with these words.”—1 Thessalonians 4:13-18.





The congregation in Thessalonica was relatively new when Paul addressed his first letter to Christians there in about 50 C.E. Members of the congregation were distressed that some of their number were “sleeping in death.” However, what Paul wrote comforted the Thessalonians with the resurrection hope.





Christ’s “Presence”





While confirming that faithful Christians then dead would be resurrected, Paul also said: “The living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep in death.” (Verse 15) Noteworthy, indeed, is the apostle’s reference to the Lord’s “presence.” Here the original-language text uses the Greek word pa‧rou‧si′an, which literally means “being alongside.”





When a foreign head of State visits a country, the dates of his presence there are generally announced. This has been true of the presence of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914. Events since that year testify to Jesus’ invisible presence. (Matthew 24:3-14) So by saying that certain Christians living during the Lord’s presence would be “caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air,” Paul meant that those survivors would be meeting Christ, not in earth’s atmosphere, but in the invisible heavenly realm where Jesus sits at God’s right hand. (Hebrews 1:1-3) But who are they?





“The Israel of God”





The Scriptures say much about fleshly Israelites and also speak of the spiritual “Israel of God.” Jewish and Gentile believers were to make up the full number of this group anointed by God’s holy spirit, or active force. (Galatians 6:16; Romans 11:25, 26; 1 John 2:20, 27) The book of Revelation shows that the total number of spiritual Israel is 144,000, all of whom are depicted with the Lamb, Jesus Christ, on heavenly Mount Zion. Along with Christ, they would be kings and priests in heaven. (Revelation 7:1-8; 14:1-4; 20:6) Included among them would be individuals who had been associated with the congregations in Thessalonica and elsewhere, whatever their racial or national background.—Acts 10:34, 35.





Before any faithful members of spiritual Israel could receive a heavenly reward, they would have to share a certain experience. Just as Jesus’ death on the torture stake preceded his resurrection to life in the heavens, so Christians with the heavenly hope must die before receiving their reward. (1 Corinthians 15:35, 36) That would be true of members of spiritual Israel living in the first century C.E. and of such individuals alive today.





After mentioning “the presence of the Lord,” Paul pointed to the time when faithful spiritual Israelites who had died would receive their heavenly reward. He wrote: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.” (Verse 16) Therefore, once Jesus’ presence as King began, we would expect the heavenly resurrection to start, commencing with those of spiritual Israel who had already died as integrity keepers. (1 Corinthians 15:23) They now serve alongside Jesus in heaven. But what of the comparatively few anointed Christians still living on the earth? Do they await the rapture?





“Caught Away”—How?





After referring to anointed Christians who had died, Paul added: “Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with the Lord.” (Verse 17) “The living” would be those alive during Christ’s presence. They would be “caught away” to meet the Lord Jesus. As in the case of faithful early Christians, death as a human is necessary for them to be united with Christ in heaven.—Romans 8:17, 35-39.





In writing to Christians in Corinth, Paul stated: “This I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s kingdom, neither does corruption inherit incorruption. Look! I tell you a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep in death, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.” (1 Corinthians 15:50-52) Upon dying in faithfulness during Christ’s presence, each one of the remnant of spiritual Israel instantaneously receives his heavenly reward. “In the twinkling of an eye,” he is resurrected as a spirit creature and “caught away” to meet Jesus and to serve as a coruler in the Kingdom of the heavens. But what about all others worshiping Jehovah? As the end of this wicked system approaches, will they also be caught away to heaven?





Survival—But Not by Rapture





Inasmuch as Jesus’ royal presence began in 1914, we are now deep into this world’s “time of the end.” (Daniel 12:4) Paul warned: “As for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you. For you yourselves know quite well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape.” (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3) But alert Christians will escape. How?





The cry “Peace and security!” is a precursor of the period Jesus called the “great tribulation.” Describing “a great crowd” of faithful ones who have the hope of living eternally in an earthly paradise, the book of Revelation says: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” (Revelation 7:9, 14; Luke 23:43) No, theirs is not the prospect of a rapture. Rather, they have the hope of survival right here on the earth. To prepare for it, they must remain spiritually awake. How can you do this and survive the end of this system?





You need to ‘keep your senses and have on the breastplate of faith and love and as a helmet the hope of salvation.’ (1 Thessalonians 5:6-8) Now is the time to pay attention to God’s prophetic Word, the Bible. As the seconds tick away until the end of this system, heed Paul’s counsel: “Do not treat prophesyings with contempt. Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine.” (1 Thessalonians 5:20, 21) Thus Jehovah’s Witnesses welcome you to their Kingdom Halls, where you can share with them in the study of Bible prophecies and other features of God’s inspired Word.





As you grow in accurate knowledge and faith, you will discern the outworking of Jehovah God’s purpose to rid the universe of his foes and restore the earth to a paradise. By exercising faith, you may also be among the survivors of the great tribulation, privileged to welcome back the millions who will be resurrected to life on earth. And what a joy it will be to live under God’s Kingdom in the hands of Jesus Christ and his corulers, who will have been ‘caught away to meet the Lord’ by being resurrected to life in the heavenly realm!





For obedient mankind in general, then, what is the true Scriptural hope? It is not a rapture. Instead, it is eternal life on earth under the rule of God’s Kingdom.
Go to biblegateway and put in a search for the word ';rapture';......





I will guarantee you that you shall not find it.... Because it is not written.....





The term, in Scripture, is called: ';Caught up';.... to meet the Lord in the ';air';.........





So, where does this occurr?..... IN THE AIR......





Where is the air?........





Look at this: ((Strong's Concordance))





AIR:


aer {ah-ayr'}





1) the air, particularly the lower and denser air as distinguished from the higher and rarer air





2) the atmospheric region








It is all around you.........





To be caught up is the same as having no body as the body is literally lifted or stripped off of you.... What good is a physical body in a spiritual world......





What belongs to the earth is earth.... what belongs to the spirit is spirit...... Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven....





New heaven... New earth....





Of course, we are all going to change.....





Compare the air....





1 Thessalonians 4:14


Ephesians 2:2





Your sister,


Ginger
No you dont. Not if you believe its true.. You dont need to be proved wrong. Go believe and let it go.
How can you prove the truth to be false?





The time is coming very soon. It is closer then you know, and far closer then most will admit. I can hear Gabriel warming up his trumpet right now.
I don't know if it's true or false. But there is no such term in the Bible. So, you can ask the person preaching on it, to give you biblical proof. When they give you the verses that infer the Rapture, then you will have to make your own interpretation of it. Not all Christians believe that there will be a rapture in that everyone who is a believer when Christ comes will suddenly disappear.





Here are two scripture verses that cause people to believe this:





1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.





Revelation 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
It is not in the bible
Well done lightning. I agree.





Cheers!!
The rapture theory was never ever part of the church. Only a woman named Mary Macdonald a young woman, in a trance explained it. This was 1820 or so.





Ask an Eastern Orthodox Priest about what the rapture is, and you would understand that it is completely false.
SECRET RAPTURE IS NOT IN THE WORD OF GOD





But no matter how intense the persecution, the church will complete her task of proclaiming the gospel to all nations before the end comes. Remember, when persecution set in on the early church, the gospel penetrated new areas and the number of disciples increased. Can we expect anything less in the time of the end? No 'Secret Rapture' Today, the idea of escaping the end-time tribulation by way of a ';secret rapture'; is popular among evangelicals, but the Bible teaches no such doctrine. Rather, the New Testament shows that truly converted Christians-men and women of deep and abiding faith, who are filled with the Spirit of God, and who hope and yearn for the coming of their Lord-will still be on the earth at the time the ';Antichrist'; (';man of sin,'; or ';lawless one';) appears (see 2 Thessalonians 1:1-2:12). Make no mistake; the church will be ';caught up'; to meet Christ as He descends from heaven (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17), but this event takes place some few years after the Antichrist arrives on the scene.


Notice the events surrounding the Second Coming of Christ:


The faithful saints will be given rest from their troubles when Christ appears (1 Thessalonians 1:7).


The wicked-';those who obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ';-will be destroyed at the same time the faithful saints are given rest (verses 7-9).


The Antichrist, or ';lawless one,'; will be destroyed ';with the brightness of His coming'; (1 Thessalonians 2:8)-that is, at the same time the above two events occur.


Plainly, the reward of the saints and punishment of the wicked are associated with the same event-';when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven'; (1:7), ';when He comes, in that Day'; (1:10), ';with the brightness of His coming'; (2:8). This scenario hardly leaves room for a secret, pretribulational rapture.


An honest investigation also reveals that the passage does not envision ';left behind'; saints, or men and women who are converted after Christ comes secretly for the church. The context is critical here. Paul is speaking to the faithful saints of the Thessalonian church (and, by association, the Church of God in general), not to the unconverted or half-converted. Listen to his description, and see if these sound like the spiritually impotent or unregenerate:


We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure, which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels'; (1 Thessalonians 1:3-7).A people whose faith ';grows exceedingly,'; whose love ';abounds'; toward others, and who are known for their outstanding ';patience and faith'; as they endure ';persecutions and tribulations'; are hardly ';lukewarm'; Christians who are not really serious about living their faith. Nor are they Christians ';in name only.';


No, these are real Christians, true followers of Jesus Christ, and Paul did not dissuade them from believing that they would live right into the time of the Antichrist. Why, then, should anyone today think that all true Christians will be snatched out of this world and taken to heaven at the beginning of the tribulation and reign of Antichrist?


Plainly, the idea of the church being snatched away to escape tribulation under the reign of Antichrist was completely foreign to Paul's mind. The Remnant Church In Revelation 12, the devil is unsuccessful in his attempt to destroy Christ when He is born (verses 4,5). He also fails to destroy the ';woman'; who gave birth to Christ (verses 13,14). Enraged, the devil goes off ';to make war with the rest of her [the woman's] offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ'; (verse 17).


Who are the rest (or ';remnant';-KJV) of the woman's offspring? Christ was her first offspring; the rest of her offspring must be Christ's brothers and sisters-the Spirit-begotten members of the family of God, which is the Church of the Living God.


Ps 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.


Ps 91:5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;


Ps 91:6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.


Ps 91:7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.


Ps 91:8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.


Ps 91:9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;


Ps 91:10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.


Ps 91:11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
Since when was it even considered a 'teaching'?
THE RAPTURE IS TRUTH%26lt; BUT THE WORD RAPTURE IS NOT USED IN THE BIBLE











rapture means to be caught up


1 Thesolonians 4


16. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:


17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.








1Corinthians 15





51. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,


52. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.





Matthew 24


40. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.


41. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.


42. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.





Enoch was raptured





Genesis 5:


24. And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him
you won't find it in the Bible.

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