Thursday, February 4, 2010

Why do christians fall for the false teaching that people born jews are God's chosen people?

Romans 9:





3For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh,





4who are Israelites and to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;





5of whom are the fathers, and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.





6It is not as though the Word of God hath taken no effect. For they are not all Israel, who are of Israel;





7neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children; but, ';In Isaac shall thy seed be called.';





8That is, they who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; rather, the children of the promise are counted as the seed.





Can it be said any clearer than that? And before you even give the familiar response, understand the above passage and then apply this to the proper people:





Genesis 12


1Now the LORD had said unto Abram, ';Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will show thee.





2And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing.








3And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee; and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.';Why do christians fall for the false teaching that people born jews are God's chosen people?
Oh boy chosen by the great religious scam.


Anybody prefer to choose morality heart character or virtue ...?


Atheist at least have the privledge to choose for themselves something that makes good sense rather than the hand-me-down shortcomings of primitive superstitious thought.


If I'm gonna be held responsible for my thoughts and deeds ,I'd just as soon stand on my on two feet rather than hide behind the skirts of theism .Why do christians fall for the false teaching that people born jews are God's chosen people?
Have you always been an anti semitic bigot, or is that a newer side to your warped personality?
Yeah. You'd think they'd know that Zeus's followers are the chosen people.
Umm... the New Covenant was given to the House of Judah and Israel. So Jews are God's chosen people. But if you want to be one of God's people, you can be grafted in.





Hebrews 8:8


8But God found fault with the people and said[a]:


';The time is coming, declares the Lord,


when I will make a new covenant


with the house of Israel


and with the house of Judah





Romans 11:1-2


1I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew.





Romans 11:17-21


17If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19You will say then, ';Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.'; 20Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
It is nice that you can quote from the bible.





Answer: God back to Exodus and read there. There you can file the passage that God choices Israel (not the other way around.)
the Jews came from Israel ( Jacob) and God made him the promise from then on he has watched over them and Jesus came to them but many rejected him, they are still in God's hands and he loves them when they follow his laws.
Israel is the title of Jacob s/o Issac s/o Abraham from God. Decsendent of twelves sons of Jacob are known as Israelites. One of the son's name was Juda. They started calling themselves Jews and their religion Judaism derived from the name of Juda. He may have been the leader of all.


It is true that Israelites were chosen people and God sent them continuously one Prophet after another between Moses and Jesus. Jesus was sent to them before John the Baptist was killed. Jews had John the Baptist also killed by Romans and then conspired to have Jesus killed also.





God had given Jews signs in their books about the last Prophet that will come in Arabian peninsula. So many of their tribes came and settled in Madina and in Khyber in Arabian peninsula years before Muhammad was born. They were sure that God will bless Jews with the birth of the last Prophet in one of their families. When Jews heard that a man in Mecca is claiming to be the Prophet of God, Jews sent their men to test him. They questioned Muhammad SAW 'how Israelites got in Egypt' and how they were freed from slavery' because most Arabs being not educated didn't know history of Jews. Right when they questioned Muhammad SAW, God revealed him the entire Sura Yusuf (Joseph) in Quran which he read to Jews. They also tested him many times when he settled in Madina. Each time he passed the test. God says to Muhammad in Quran that Jews know you as they know their own sons that you are the Prophet of God. But they will never accept you because you are not one of them and they hate the fact that God gave last Prophet to Arabs. In Quran God also says that Jews and idol worshipppers of Mecca have strong hatred against you and you will find people amongst Christians softer towards Islam. We see in recent years more Christians are accepting Islam in Europe and USA than people of any other religion and idol worshippers of India and Jews still hate Islam and Muslims than all other people in this world.





Few years after Muhammad SAW was rejected by Jews in Madina during the middle of one congregation prayers God commanded Muhammad SAW to turn his face from Jerusalem towards Kaaba in Mecca. That is when God withdrew the title of Jews as chosen people of God and replaced them with Muslims. God did invited Jews in Quran in Surah Al-Baqarah to accept Islam and join Muslims and Muhammad SAW read the revelations of God to Jews, but they turned down each time. One time in Madina a Jewish family invited Prophet in their house and put poison in his food. His companion with him took one musal in his mouth and suddently was choked to death. Muhammad spitted his first musal still in his mouth and walked out of their house. He had effect of the poison quite some time even though he didn't swallow the musal. Another time Muhammad was sitting by the wall of a Jewish family to rest. A Jewish woman dropped a big rock from her roof on to Muhammad's head. God's Angel Gabriel pulled Muhammad away a second before the rock would drop on his head.





Though Muhammad had written treaty with Jews to help and protect each others, Jews conspired several times to have him killed by instigating and helping Aetheists of Mecca to come and kill Muhammad SAW. Aetheits attacked to kill Muhammad and his followers three times but Muslims defeated in all three wars. Each time Jews did make some excuse to join Muslims in fight. They instead supplied weapons and information to Aetheists in each war.





Muslims being the last people that follow the last Prophet of God, have responsibility to pass the message of Quran to rest of the world until the end of world. If Muslims don't fullfill their responsibility, God may punish those Muslims whom He gives ability to preach Islam and they don't. So I try to do.
What brand of drinking water do you an Ann Coulter purchase?





I want to also be as intelligent and wise as you both.
...The Promise of God was given to Abraham...

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